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ZEN VS MARCEL #2

Battle Result

Official Battle Result

Clash Summary

ZEN vs MARCEL 2 took place during the PenGame Rap Battle 2025 Cold War Semi-Finals. This was a rematch between two northern battlers, with ZEN representing Leeds and MARCEL representing Manchester. The host frames it as “battle of the up north,” with the pressure high because their previous clash had gone MARCEL’s way. ZEN goes first. ZEN opens with a big statement round. He brings back his “Grand Mastermind,” “Dog Block Champ,” and “Z to the N” identity, then attacks MARCEL through size, delivery, lisp, head shape, previous win, reload begging, and stage image. His Roberto Carlos/Argos counter line gets a big reaction early. He then goes into Lord Farquaad/Shrek, delivery, grandad shock material, wet dog imagery, dinner plate/defibrillator, Villa, Drake/Dracula, wet-floor signs, Harry Maguire, Heady 1000 and war imagery. It is a strong opener with crowd control and different pockets. MARCEL responds with a direct name-flip round. He flips “Z to the N again” into “Z to the M again,” says he is ending ZEN again, references beating him before along with JM, and uses D12/Eminem/Killshot imagery. He attacks ZEN for crying outside after their last battle, begging for reloads like Oliver Twist, looking like Mike Righteous on heroin, his mum, his girls, ego, and trying to get redemption. It is a strong response, but ZEN’s first has the bigger variety and command. Round two sees ZEN switch into a more personal and comedic attack. He calls MARCEL a Craig Mitch/crayfish hybrid, attacks his head size, height, face, race ambiguity, copied bars, baby Guinness, micromanaged job, inability to reach pedals, and flips MARCEL’s Michael Jackson/nose angle back by saying MARCEL is more like MJ because he was a Black guy who turned out white. Some material is identity-based and offensive, but within the clash it lands as a direct character attack. MARCEL’s second is aggressive and structured around physical dominance. He brings “Never Back Down,” ground-and-pound, Will Smith/Chris Rock, Rihanna/Chris Brown, WWE champion, Mortal Kombat, family incest shock material, onion bhaji, pelican face, speech impediment, soldier/regiment and “who’s ready then” call-and-response. The round has energy, but the judges later feel ZEN has more clarity and stronger bar work. ZEN’s third is the clearest closer. He switches again, brings bassline energy, North-vs-North status, Tesco/head-size bars, Top Boy, Esco, Google Maps, Family Feud, grandma material, reload/girlfriend angle, Tyrion Lannister, Excalibur, Pencil Game, Kim Kardashian/Cheeks, and then closes with a strong “again” scheme: he got robbed, came back, and is ending MARCEL again. This round reinforces the rematch narrative. MARCEL’s third brings football, England, Four Lions, shop/Yorkshire, family/ethnicity angles, sister/holiday material, Joker/Bane/Batman, Venom, Spider-Man, Mary Jane, Carnage, poker, Nishi, eBay guns, PK and a warning closer. It is solid, but the judges feel MARCEL leans too heavily on sound effects and does not match ZEN’s clarity. The official decision is ZEN wins by unanimous judges’ decision. PK calls it 3-0 ZEN, while Strands and Craig Mitch both give the battle to ZEN. Craig says it was a photo finish but ZEN brought more energy, clarity, straight bars and different flows. This result levels the rivalry: MARCEL won their previous clash, but ZEN wins the rematch.

Performance Analysis

ZEN

ZEN wins because he is clearer, more versatile and more controlled across all three rounds. He brings different flows, crowd-command moments and enough direct material to beat MARCEL without needing only shock value. His first round is a strong opener. The name intro gets the room locked in, and the Roberto Carlos/Argos bar sets the level early. He attacks MARCEL’s size, delivery, lisp, previous win and head shape while still keeping the round musical and energetic. His second round is comedic but pointed. He attacks MARCEL’s appearance, height, race ambiguity, job, copied material and Michael Jackson angle. It is offensive in places, but it keeps a clear target and shows that ZEN can switch from war talk into personal comedy. His third round is the best all-round performance. The beat switch, bassline feel, North-status contrast, Google Maps short joke, Tyrion Lannister, Excalibur and Pencil Game material all work. The final “again” scheme ties the whole battle back to the rematch and gives the performance a clean ending. ZEN’s biggest strength is performance control. He can move between flow, jokes, personal attacks and rematch narrative without losing the room.

Lyrical Themes: Grand Mastermind, Z to the N, Roberto Carlos, Argos, Shrek/Farquaad, delivery/lisp, robbery in previous clash, Harry Maguire, Heady 1000, Craig Mitch/crayfish, baby Guinness, race ambiguity, Michael Jackson flip, Top Boy, Google Maps, Tyrion Lannister, Excalibur, Pencil Game, “again” rematch scheme.

MARCEL

MARCEL has a strong battle and lands good moments, especially with the “Z to the M” name flip and the Oliver Twist reload angle. His issue is that ZEN is cleaner across the full battle. His first round is the most dangerous. He immediately claims ownership over the rematch, saying it is Z to the M again, not Z to the N. He attacks ZEN’s previous loss, tears, reload-begging, mum, girls and ego. This is the round where MARCEL looks most likely to make it close. His second round has good aggression. The Will Smith/Chris Rock, Rihanna/Chris Brown, WWE and Mortal Kombat angles give him room moments, and the onion bhaji line is likely one of his biggest reaction points. But ZEN’s round has more range and cleaner control. His third round has a lot of ideas: England, Four Lions, Yorkshire shop, ethnicity, Joker, Bane, Batman, Spider-Man, Carnage, poker, eBay guns and PK. However, Craig Mitch specifically says the sound effects become too much towards the end. That hurts MARCEL’s clarity. MARCEL’s biggest strength is direct rebuttal and name flipping. His weakness here is overloading performance tricks and sound effects when the judges wanted clarity.

Lyrical Themes: Z to the M, ending Zen, D12/Eminem/Killshot, reload begging, Oliver Twist, Mike Righteous, Migos, red flag/bull, jet lag/jetpack, semi-detached, alpha wolf, WWE, Mortal Kombat, onion bhaji, pelican, Four Lions, Joker/Bane/Batman, Spider-Man, Carnage, final warning.

Key Technical Highlights

ZEN

Best round

Round three.

Strongest trait

Clarity and versatility.

Best angle

Rematch revenge / “ending MARCEL again.”

Best technical section

Roberto Carlos / Argos and final “again” scheme.

Battle-winning factor

More complete performance across all three rounds.

MARCEL

Best round

Round one.

Strongest trait

Name flips and direct attack.

Best angle

Z to the M / ending Zen.

Best moment

Oliver Twist reload-begging angle.

Battle-losing factor

Sound effects and performance choices slightly overtook the bars.

Indexed Bars & Breakdown

ZEN

Identity

"One of my names, the Grand Mastermind."

ZEN opens by reasserting his identity. It gives the round a champion-style intro.

Identity

"Dog Block Champ, that’s one of my names."

A self-branding line. ZEN reminds the room of his status and previous image.

Identity

"Z to the N again."

A signature identity bar. It sets up his repeated name motif.

Sports/Wordplay

"I lick shots, I swerve round walls like Roberto Carlos."

This references Roberto Carlos, famous for bending free kicks. ZEN says his shots bend round walls.

Height Joke

"You can’t even see the counter when you’re getting served in Argos."

A clean Argos/counter punch. It also attacks MARCEL’s height or vision: he cannot see over the counter.

Rematch Angle

"You got lucky with the one little win."

ZEN addresses the previous MARCEL win directly and frames it as luck.

Status

"You really think you could try fuck with a bar god?"

A status claim. ZEN says MARCEL is not on his lyrical level.

Appearance Joke

"He lives in a swamp like Shrek and came here looking like gay Lord Farquaad."

This references Shrek and Lord Farquaad, attacking MARCEL’s height and appearance. It is hostile battle material.

Delivery Insult

"You can’t even say S, better work on your delivery."

A lisp/delivery attack. ZEN targets MARCEL’s speech clarity.

Height/Violence

"I don’t care if you’re 5’4 in the war, I won’t start boxing you physically."

A height/violence line. ZEN says MARCEL’s size does not make him a physical threat.

Rematch Angle

"Zen got robbed in a clash."

ZEN references his previous battle with MARCEL and says he was robbed.

Shock Value

"I heard your grandad robbed your virginity."

A dark family/sexual shock line. It is battle material and should not be treated as fact.

Visual Insult

"You stood there shaking like a little wet dog that came in from the rain."

A strong visual insult. MARCEL is framed as nervous and weak.

Appearance Joke

"I can’t tell if it’s MARCEL or a little cracked-out H.S. Tikky Tokky."

A pop-culture/appearance insult. The transcript wording is rough, but it is aimed at MARCEL’s look and image.

Violent Image

"Chopped in the top lip with a dinner plate."

A violent but cartoonish image. It attacks MARCEL’s mouth/face.

Shock Value

"Bounced off the wall, hit your mother in the chest, but she can’t defibrillate."

A dark defibrillator/mother line. It is shock battle material.

Violence/Location

"Strangle a man with a pillowcase till he turns red in the face at the place where Villa plays."

This references Aston Villa and uses “Villa Park” location imagery. It is a football/violence scheme.

Résumé

"I beat Passive with a chest infection and I couldn’t even inhale, exhale."

A résumé bar. ZEN says he beat PASSIVE despite being ill.

Delivery Insult

"If he says seashells on the seashore, then the front row better stand back."

A lisp/spit bar. ZEN says MARCEL sprays when he speaks.

Joke

"Somebody here will need a wet floor sign."

This extends the spit/lisp angle into a visual room joke.

Appearance Joke

"He should have played for the England squad, cause the brother’s got a head like Harry Maguire."

This references footballer Harry Maguire, known for heading ability and head jokes. ZEN attacks MARCEL’s head size.

Appearance/Wordplay

"His rap name should have been Heady 1000."

A head-size flip. It references UK rapper Headie One while exaggerating MARCEL’s head.

Status

"Built for the war, very experienced, very skilled in the war."

ZEN closes round one by framing himself as battle-tested.

Appearance Joke

"Blood, you look like Craig Mitch if he got crossed with a crayfish."

ZEN opens round two by attacking MARCEL’s appearance using judge Craig Mitch and a crayfish image.

Appearance/Shock Value

"Judging by the size of your dome, you look like Xoot if he had Down syndrome."

An offensive disability-based appearance line. It is battle material and should be treated carefully.

Height Joke

"He tried drinking a Baby Guinness, but he’s so short that it took 18 minutes."

A height/drink joke. Baby Guinness is a shot, so needing 18 minutes exaggerates MARCEL’s size.

Height Joke

"He would need a whole drainpipe if he went snorkelling."

Another height joke. Even snorkelling needs oversized equipment because of his size.

Wordplay/Insult

"The whole time he was getting micromanaged."

A job/height pun. “Micro” links to MARCEL’s height and workplace management.

Appearance/Race Angle

"He kept making them racist jokes but I can’t even tell what race you are."

A race-ambiguity line. It is hostile but targeted at MARCEL’s identity and appearance.

Appearance/Race Angle

"I can’t tell if he’s Albo, Polish, Arab, Iranian, White or Kosovan."

This continues the race-ambiguity angle. It should be treated strictly as battle material.

Height Joke

"You can’t even reach the pedals when you’re out on a bike."

A height joke. MARCEL is too short to ride properly.

Rebuttal Setup

"MARCEL said I had a nose like Michael Jackson."

ZEN introduces a rebuttal to a prior angle.

Race/Rebuttal

"MARCEL’s more like MJ cause he was a Black guy that turned out to be White."

This flips Michael Jackson imagery back onto MARCEL. It is a race/appearance punch.

Drug/Wordplay

"Quarter cast, get lined up sitting like quarter bags."

A drug-weight/line-up punch. The transcript is rough, but the scheme plays on “quarter.”

Size Joke

"I don’t need a coffin, I use the same box that a man caught with a matchstick."

A size/coffin joke. MARCEL is small enough to fit in a matchbox.

Dismissal

"You’re not big, you’re a bitch."

ZEN opens round three by dismissing MARCEL’s status.

Head Size/Visual

"You got a head so big it will knock shit off the shelf when you walk through Tesco."

A head-size visual. It is simple and crowd-friendly.

Reference

"I’m gonna move like Esco."

This references Esco or street/control imagery, connecting to Top Boy/road themes.

Regional Comparison

"Top boy’s better from the north, that’s me. Waste man’s better from the north, that’s you."

A North-vs-North comparison. ZEN says he is the superior northern battler.

Status

"Best on PenGame, yeah that’s me. Know for a fact that’s not you."

A direct status claim. ZEN says MARCEL is not at the top.

Height Joke

"Man like Callum so short just to get through the crowd, I need to use Google Maps."

A height joke. MARCEL is so hard to see in the crowd that ZEN needs navigation.

Family Shock

"I heard you went on Family Feud because your grandma walks around happily nude."

A family/TV-show shock line. It is battle material.

Crude Joke

"After I bust in your girlfriend’s face, she was on both knees trying to beg for a reload."

A crude sexual/reload punch. It is battle material.

Height/Reference

"You’re looking like the roadman version of Tyrion Lannister."

This references Tyrion Lannister from Game of Thrones, known for short stature. ZEN uses it as a height/style insult.

Imagery

"I swing Excalibur."

A sword/legendary weapon line. Excalibur symbolises a decisive strike.

Platform/Wordplay

"This little man should have been on Pencil Game."

A PenGame/Pencil Game flip. ZEN says MARCEL is too small or childish for PenGame.

Reputation

"Should have just called him Kim Kardashian, he made a name off Cheeks."

This references Kim Kardashian and “Cheeks.” It attacks MARCEL’s reputation as being built from another person or body-image angle.

Rematch Claim

"I got robbed in a clash, but then I came back and C to that end again."

A direct rematch statement. ZEN says he was robbed before and has now come back to finish MARCEL.

Résumé

"Murk this brother like I murked JM again."

A résumé bar. ZEN references previous wins to reinforce his status.

MARCEL

Name Flip

"It’s Z to the N again? Fuck that, it’s C to the M again."

MARCEL opens by flipping ZEN’s signature phrase. C to the M refers to Callum/MARCEL and takes control of the name scheme.

Name Flip/Threat

"Put a D at the end of his name, that’s Z to the N, cause I’m ending Zen again."

A strong name flip. Adding “D” makes “Zend,” sounding like “Zen’d” or “end Zen.”

Résumé

"He got beat by me and JM."

MARCEL references ZEN’s previous losses and uses tournament history against him.

Hip-Hop Reference

"These idiots think they’re D12 and this pussy thinks that it’s M&M."

This references D12 and Eminem. MARCEL says ZEN’s side thinks they are a rap collective, but ZEN is not Eminem-level.

Reference/Threat

"I’ve got a Killshot that’ll bury Zen."

This references Eminem’s diss track Killshot. MARCEL says his bar will finish ZEN.

Personal Attack

"Last battle he was crying outside, tears in his eyes."

MARCEL attacks ZEN’s reaction after their previous clash.

Performance Critique

"This guy’s like Oliver Twist, he gets a reload, now he’s constantly begging."

A strong reload-begging angle. Oliver Twist famously asks for more.

Performance/Joke

"Please sir, can I have some more?"

This completes the Oliver Twist reference and mocks ZEN’s reload requests.

Appearance

"He looks like Mike Righteous if Mike Righteous was hooked on heroin."

A harsh appearance/drug image. It is battle material.

Family Insult

"Your mum gets fucked by many men."

A crude mother insult. It is battle material.

Appearance Jokes

"Your ex-girlfriend looks like Haaland, your new girl looks like John Terry."

Footballer-based appearance insults.

Appearance/Ego

"The only thing bigger than his nose is his ego."

A clean appearance/ego punch.

Wordplay

"I catch him offset like Migos."

This references Offset from Migos. It also means catching him off guard.

Money

"Take everything he owns like repos."

A repossession/money-status line.

Violence/Visual

"I send man to the sky like a jetpack."

A violence/flight punch.

Wordplay/Violence

"It’s ironic that we’re in the semis, cause his head’s gonna get semi-detached."

A semi-final/semi-detached wordplay line. This is one of MARCEL’s strongest first-round punches.

Status

"He thinks he’s the big bad wolf, but I’m the alpha."

A wolf/alpha hierarchy bar. MARCEL says he is above ZEN.

Wordplay

"I’ll leave man red when I write in blood and put a Z to the end like the alphabet."

A Z/end/alphabet punch. It ties ZEN’s name into the end of the alphabet.

Status/Rematch

"I gave him a chance for redemption."

MARCEL frames the rematch as something he allowed ZEN to have.

Community Angle

"I’m gonna get the redemption for Passive, Orion, SMIL3Z and F-DON."

A tournament/community angle. MARCEL says he is avenging multiple battlers.

Confidence

"Never back down, back myself and stand my ground."

MARCEL opens round two with a confidence statement.

Regional

"You’re from Leeds, what you talking about?"

A regional attack. MARCEL questions ZEN’s authority.

Pop Culture Violence

"Like Will Smith, get Chris Rock right now."

This references the Will Smith/Chris Rock Oscars slap. MARCEL says he will strike ZEN.

Music Reference

"Like Rihanna, you don’t run this town."

A Rihanna/Jay-Z/Kanye reference to “Run This Town.” MARCEL says ZEN does not control the stage.

Pop Culture Violence

"I will push this bitch up like Chris Brown."

This references Chris Brown’s violence against Rihanna and is hostile battle material.

Wrestling/Status

"Like WWE, I’m a champion soon you will see."

A wrestling/status claim. MARCEL says he is on the way to championship status.

Rematch Prediction

"I’m gonna beat him again, that’s two Ws."

A direct rematch line. MARCEL says he will go 2-0 against ZEN.

Gaming Reference

"If you want it then get over here and we can fight it out like Mortal Kombat."

A Mortal Kombat reference. “Get over here” is Scorpion’s famous line.

Insult

"He and his mum made bhajis to get their pans out."

A food/family insult. The onion bhaji angle appears across the battle.

Cultural Joke

"Onion bhaji boy, yeah look at him."

This is a cultural/food insult aimed at ZEN. It is battle material.

Appearance

"All I see is his nose."

A direct appearance insult.

Appearance

"He’s got hair like a bitch."

A gendered appearance insult.

Visual Insult

"All I see is the face of a pelican."

A visual insult. MARCEL compares ZEN’s face to a pelican.

Self-Deprecation/Insult

"You’re getting murked by a speech impediment."

MARCEL turns his own speech impediment into a strength, saying even with it he is beating ZEN.

Joke

"We’ll forget this one here like an elephant."

An elephant/memory joke. Elephants are said not to forget, so the wording flips memory.

Status

"I’m a soldier, you’re not in my regiment."

A military/status line.

Name Scheme

"Who’s ready then? I’ll C to the end again."

This revisits the “C to the M / ending Zen” theme and keeps the name scheme alive.

Football

"Do you remember the Euros?"

MARCEL opens round three with football/England imagery.

National Imagery

"I love England and I love Three Lions."

A national-football reference. Three Lions is the England football symbol and anthem.

Movie Reference

"Rubber dinghy rappers, look, it’s Omar from Four Lions."

This references Four Lions, the British satirical film, and uses Omar as a comparison for ZEN.

Regional/Insult

"You live in a shop in Yorkshire."

A regional/family-business attack. It is battle material.

Racial Identity Angle

"Stop saying that you’re not Indian, stop claiming that you’re from Ghana."

This is a racial/ethnic identity attack and should be treated strictly as hostile battle material.

Identity/Family Angle

"I’ve seen your mother and I’ve seen your father."

MARCEL says he has evidence for the identity angle by seeing ZEN’s family.

Villain Imagery

"I got a twisted mind like the Joker."

A Batman-villain reference. MARCEL frames himself as chaotic and dangerous.

Villain Imagery

"If I put this mask on like Bane, then your life is over."

A Bane reference from Batman. It adds villain imagery.

Delivery/Wordplay

"I spit venom that’ll kill."

This links venom/poison imagery to rap delivery.

Comic/Weed

"If I swing like Spider-Man, you’ll need Mary Jane."

A Spider-Man/Mary Jane reference. It also connects to weed through “Mary Jane.”

Comic

"Test myself, that’s Carnage."

Another Spider-Man universe reference. Carnage is a violent symbiote.

Threat

"You’re gambling with your life like poker."

A risk/death punch.

Incident Angle

"You got beat up by a guy called Nishi."

A direct personal incident angle. It should be treated as battle material.

Music

"I’ll run this track like a relay."

A running/track/music punch. MARCEL says he controls the beat.

Live Context

"I’m a rebel like Strand and TJ."

This uses judge/room references for a live-context bar.

Judge Insult

"Craig, look at his fit, I swear he got them guns from eBay."

A judge-directed fashion/prop insult. It uses Craig Mitch in the room.

Judge Name Flip

"Right now the winner’s inside like PK."

A judge-name flip using PK Humble. MARCEL says the winner is already present.

Threat

"I’m only gonna give you one warning."

A warning-closer. MARCEL ends by making the round feel like a final threat.

Judgement Summary

ZEN wins by unanimous decision (3-0)

Strands gives the battle to ZEN. He says ZEN did not need to be overly disrespectful to get crowd reaction, which he respects as a battle skill. He praises ZEN for landing material that was not just shock value. Craig Mitch says it was a photo finish and very tight, but he gives the battle to ZEN. He says ZEN brought more energy, clarity, straight bars and different flows. He also says MARCEL’s sound effects were enjoyable at points but became too much towards the end. PK Humble says both battlers went crazy, but calls it 3-0 ZEN from his view. This result evens the rivalry score to 1-1.

Battle Stats

Date10-09-2025
Views219K
LeagueSeason Cold War