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WHOISORION VS ZEN

Battle Result

Official Battle Result

Clash Summary

WHOISORION vs ZEN closed PenGame’s first Manchester event, with Shotty Horror co-hosting and the host marking the night as a successful first Mancunian PenGame. ORION won the coin toss, but ZEN was sent first. There is no official judging decision in the transcript; the host ends by telling viewers to comment who they think won.

This was a high-reload, high-energy clash. ZEN came in with veteran confidence, heavy crowd control and repeated body/food jokes aimed at ORION. His strongest asset was performance. He kept getting brought back, controlled the room, and his third round became one of the biggest crowd moments of the event.

ORION answered with more personal angles: ZEN’s heritage, nose, father, alleged payment claims, music, height, battle status, and later a Christmas/Santa scheme. He had good writing and some sharp rebuttal sections, but ZEN’s crowd command and reload count made the battle feel like it belonged to him.

Performance Analysis

ZEN

ZEN had the bigger room impact. His opening round immediately set the tone with the “Grandmaster Mic Man / Don’t Flop champ / PenGame champ” self-introduction before attacking ORION’s weight, stepdad image, body shape and food habits. The opening had several restarts and crowd interruptions, but once it locked in, ZEN built serious momentum. His second round was more direct and more damaging. He attacked ORION’s RTM appearance, previous battle incidents, DRIZZGB loss, Boxpark situation, Pop Smoke/Pop Tart flips and cup-size jokes. It was aggressive, personal and performance-heavy. The third round was the standout. The “flow like Zen” hook became a room-control device, and the round picked up multiple reloads. He attacked ORION’s Chinese heritage angle, taxi/Uber work, takeaway jokes, weight, tracksuit, 2-on-2 with CHEEZEE, and girlfriend comparisons. It was not always clean in structure, but it was easily the biggest live moment of the clash.

Lyrical Themes: ORION’s weight, food, heritage, RTM humiliation, DRIZZGB loss, taxi/Uber angle, takeaway jokes, CHEEZEE/2-on-2 angle, veteran status, reload control.

WHOISORION

ORION had the sharper written rebuttal pockets. His first round was short compared with ZEN’s but contained strong lines around PenGame education, turning ZEN into toast, and a baby-mum/baby-name angle. His second round was much fuller, attacking ZEN’s father, family background, nose, alleged battle-payment claims, looks, ethnicity, height, and fake status. His final round came after the host almost ended the battle, which created an awkward but memorable moment. ORION then delivered a Christmas-themed closer with Santa, presents, mistletoe, gingerbread, Frosty the Snowman and candy-cane imagery. It showed creativity, but it came after ZEN had already created the biggest momentum swing. ORION was competitive, but ZEN’s room control made the difference.

Lyrical Themes: ZEN’s heritage, family insults, nose/appearance, fake payment claims, music/status, Christmas scheme, Santa/presents/mistletoe, lyrical disrespect, dark-mode aggression.

Key Technical Highlights

ZEN

Best crowd control

The room repeatedly brought him back.

Strongest third round

The “flow like Zen” section became the battle’s main moment.

Veteran confidence

He performed like someone used to running a room.

Memorable hooks

His name chants and repeated phrasing stuck.

Issue

Some sections over-relied on body/ethnicity/food angles.

WHOISORION

Sharper written personals

ORION had more layered attacks in parts.

Good rebuttal awareness

He answered body jokes and turned ZEN’s status claims back on him.

Creative final round

The Christmas scheme was a proper concept.

More varied angles

He attacked more than just one topic.

Issue

ZEN had already taken the room before ORION’s final got going.

Indexed Bars & Breakdown

ZEN

Veteran self-intro

"Grandmaster mic man, that’s one of my names."

ZEN opens by listing his titles and positioning himself as a veteran presence.

Don't Flop flex

"Don’t Flop champ, that’s one of mine."

A status flex. He brings his wider battle-rap history into the PenGame room.

PenGame flex

"PenGame champ, that’s one of mine."

ZEN immediately claims championship-level authority before attacking ORION.

Skill contrast

"See, the man raps, but it’s only ZEN that spits."

A simple but effective skill contrast: ORION raps, ZEN spits.

Name/size flip

"It’s ironic that your name is ORION when the fat con’s never had a belt that fits."

A belt/constellation/body-image flip, using ORION’s name to attack his size.

Fitness punch

"You’re a stepdad, but you ain’t making the steps."

A clean stepdad/steps/fitness punch.

Exercise punch

"Better lock time in the stairs."

He extends the “steps” angle into exercise and movement.

Dishcloth visual

"Your body gets way too wide for the bath, so he wipes himself with a dishcloth."

A harsh visual body joke, aimed at making ORION look physically awkward.

Hairline punch

"You go barbers and ask for the black widow."

A hairline/shape punch, using “black widow” as the visual.

Parenting angle

"What is he doing out here MCing? Shouldn’t he be fixing his son some supper?"

A stepdad/father-role angle, saying ORION should be at home parenting instead of battling.

Food punch

"He ate it all, cake and all."

A food/body punch that keeps the round’s main theme consistent.

Belly visual

"If a man was blind already, he could somehow find your belly."

A strong visual punch. ORION’s size is framed as impossible to miss.

Exaggeration punch

"For breakfast he had a 20-pack wafer."

A funny food exaggeration, continuing the overeating angle.

Jacamo bar

"I heard you wear XXXXXL, couldn’t even find the size in Jacamo."

A clothing/body-size bar. ZEN says even big-size retailers cannot help ORION.

Body angle

"You’re very fat, I ain’t coming off topic."

ZEN makes the body angle explicit: he is staying on that attack.

RTM reference

"ORION don’t even smoke weed, but on RTM he was sucking off Chronic."

A reference to ORION’s RTM appearance and Chronic angle. It is battle material, not a factual claim.

Bully frame

"You were getting bullied for an hour, it’s tragic."

ZEN frames ORION’s RTM moment as a public humiliation.

Loss callback

"Got murked by TRAPZ, got smoked by DRIZZ."

A record/status punch, bringing in previous battles and losses.

YouTube/bitch

"Even YouTube knows you’re a bitch."

ZEN claims ORION tried to remove content and failed, turning platform visibility into an insult.

Goal trap

"When he plays football, always getting trapped in goal."

A body/position joke, saying ORION is too big to move out of goal.

TRAPZ callback

"Last time TRAPZ tried to snatch his property, this time ZEN’s gonna snatch his soul."

A strong escalation from previous incident to current battle.

Constellation flip

"ORION, constellation — getting murked by DRIZZ is your occupation."

A name/space flip tied to ORION’s battle history.

Props critique

"Bring props but never see the props I gave him."

A performance critique: ORION uses props but ZEN says he does not deserve respect.

Doctor-patient weapon

"Metal to the chest like I played doctor-patient."

A weapon/medical image, landing as a darker punch.

Medical scheme

"You will need an operation."

He closes the medical scheme by turning the battle into surgery.

Father's music

"Your dad’s there singing in the booth, trying to blow."

Family/music angle, attacking ORION’s father’s music.

Pop Smoke flip

"Catfish gyal, so you look like Pop Smoke — turn up and it’s looking more like Pop Tart."

A strong Pop Smoke/Pop Tart image flip. It attacks ORION’s image and appearance at once.

Chest/Double E

"Your cup size, that’s D-double-E."

A body/chest punch with a clean D Double E grime reference feel.

LGBTQ loss

"Now you’re taking the L-G-B-T-Q."

A letter-sequence punch, turning the LGBTQ acronym into a loss bar.

Zen hook

"Flow like ZEN."

The main third-round hook. This became the battle’s biggest live device.

Self-branding

"Who is the realest? ZEN."

A self-branding call-and-response. It made the crowd part of the round.

Reload wheel

"Who gets the wheel? It’s Z to the N again."

ZEN directly links his name to reloads, making every wheel-up prove the point.

Panda visual

"Granddad’s Chinese and it makes sense, ’cause he’s looking like Kung Fu Panda."

A heritage/body-image punch. Offensive lane, but it was central to the round.

Family chins

"He’s got more chins than his family tree."

A cleaner version of the same angle: Chinese/chins/family tree wordplay.

Takeaway chopstick

"He’s had so many Chinese takeaways, he could lockpick with a chopstick."

A food/heritage joke that ties takeaway habits to the wider angle.

Exposing chink

"Trying to tell man that his granddad’s Black, but now I’m exposing a chink in his armour."

A heritage/identity punch. The wording is offensive, so archive copy treats it as battle-rap provocation.

Uber driver

"Heard you were an Uber driver, but I already knew you would lose the P."

A money/work angle, saying ORION loses money rather than making it.

Uber Eat flip

"Picking up people? He’s picking up food instead, trying to Uber Eat."

One of the cleaner taxi/takeaway flips. It converts Uber driving into Uber Eats and food jokes.

Running meter

"Taxi job is the only time that he ever runs a meter."

A strong running/meter/workout punch.

Takeaway reaction

"You work in a taxi and you love takeaway — turns out you’re more Asian than me."

A heritage/work/takeaway punchline, built for crowd reaction.

CHEEZEE cheese

"Right now we’ve got CHEEZEE and cheese."

ZEN moves into the CHEEZEE/2-on-2 angle.

Blue/brown cheese

"That cheese is brown, this cheese is blue."

A name/food/colour flip comparing CHEEZEE to ORION.

2v2 carried

"More time you’re carrying cheese, but that cheese carried you for the 2v2."

A strong battle-history punch, saying CHEEZEE carried ORION in the tag battle.

Tech tight

"Any fat guy stretching a black Nike tech, I could tell that it was looking tight on you."

A clothing/body-image bar.

Top Boy reference

"Came here looking like Kit from Top Boy, then the fat con’s getting murked just like him."

A Top Boy reference, using character imagery to predict ORION’s defeat.

Grealish joke

"Your ex-girl looks like Jack Grealish, new girl looking like Grealish again."

A relationship/appearance joke, saying ORION has a repeated type.

WHOISORION

College prep

"I’m old school nursery, them man still been rolling to PenGame colleges."

ORION presents himself as already educated in the format while others are still learning.

Scholarship

"This murder is first degree. If pen is a uni, I’m getting a scholarship."

A strong pen/education/murder scheme, fitting the PenGame setting.

CHEEZEE reference

"You see what I did with CHEEZEE — big up CHEEZEE, but on some other shit."

ORION references his previous 2-on-2 chemistry and battle work.

Toast attack

"I will turn you to toast."

A food/cooking attack, simple but direct.

Lactose intolerent

"I’m lactose intolerant."

This appears to flip the CHEEZEE/cheese angle into a food intolerance bar.

Blocking nose

"Every time he tried, his nose kept blocking it."

A nose/appearance punch aimed at ZEN.

Avoid fighting

"Best thing you can do is avoid fighting."

A credibility warning, telling ZEN not to test him physically.

Baby mum punch

"Fuck your baby mum so much, the first word that your baby will say is ORION."

A crude baby-mum/fatherhood disrespect line.

No lion

"I’m so cold, but I’m no lion."

A cold/lion/ORION-style self-flip.

Joe Biden age

"You’re old, your PenGame’s Joe Biden."

A strong age/status punch. ZEN is framed as outdated.

Reincarnation soul

"Pray reincarnation is real, because after this round your soul’s flying."

A death/spirituality closer, saying ZEN will need another life.

Arabic brothers

"First off, my apologies to all of my Afghan Arabic brothers."

ORION opens round two by setting up a heritage/culture angle against ZEN.

Dad misogynist

"Your dad’s a misogynist."

A direct family-character attack. Treat as battle material, not verified fact.

Domestic abuse angle

"You witnessed him beat up your mum when she didn’t do the dishes."

A serious domestic-violence allegation angle. Treat strictly as battle provocation.

Bossman chicken

"You’re not bossy, we just call you bossman ’cause we purchase chicken."

Shop/bossman stereotype flip aimed at ZEN’s image.

Nosy punch

"You’re too nosy, and I ain’t talking about being in other man’s business."

A nose punch with a double meaning.

Sister Megan

"I’ll put your sis to the side like Megan."

A Megan Thee Stallion-style side/shot reference, used for a sister angle.

Fibbing payments

"You ain’t get paid for battles, you’re fibbing."

A money/status punch, attacking ZEN’s claims of payment.

Payment claim

"I got paid this battle, you didn’t."

ORION claims he has higher status on the card.

Millions reach

"You’ve been battling for years, I started last year — I might reach millions."

A career-trajectory flex. ORION says he is newer but growing faster.

Markz beg

"Why do you say you get bread for rhyming? Markz didn’t pay this beg."

A direct contradiction of ZEN’s payment/status image.

Pinocchio nose

"You know why his nose has grown? Pinocchio, clearly someone’s been lying."

A nose/lying bar, one of ORION’s cleanest punches.

MJ treatment

"I am the king. I’ll give ZEN the MJ treatment — chop off his nose and light up his skin."

An MJ/nose/skin transformation punch.

Face boner

"No homo, but his face got a boner."

A crude nose/face joke.

Andrew Tate UFC

"If you know UFC, you’re going against a machine like Andrew Tate."

An Andrew Tate/UFC reference, though the wording is rough.

Shark nose

"If you backstroke through the ocean, people will leave ’cause you look like a shark is coming."

A strong nose/shape visual punch.

Winnie the Pooh

"I talk bare shit, and you’re the same colour as Winnie the Pooh."

A colour/appearance punch.

B-tech Drizzy

"You wanna be Drizzy G? Name your name to Drizzy B-tech."

Quality/status flip, making ZEN a budget version of DRIZZGB.

Penthouse setup

"Apparently ZEN got a pen. Me, I got pent-up aggression sitting in a penthouse."

A very strong pen/pent-up/penthouse opener. This is ORION’s best technical setup of the battle.

Type you up

"Stop with these bars, no pen, trying to type you up."

A writing/typing threat, continuing the pen scheme.

Midas touch

"Even when a man got writer’s block, compared to you I still got a Midas touch."

A strong skill-flex. Even blocked, ORION says he writes better.

Tightening up

"I’m here for you if your bars need tightening up."

A condescending writing-coach punch.

Watch time

"I’ll snatch your watch and dash that shit in the air — oh yeah, your time is up."

A clean watch/time punchline.

Scent success

"I smell success when I write."

A self-belief line, saying his writing has a winning scent.

Christmas scheme

"I’m dressed as Santa, not for the banter, I’m tryna do a scheme with Christmas."

ORION makes the costume/concept explicit.

Presence gift

"This battle will be almost new, ’cause my presence is what I’m gifting."

A good Christmas/presence/presents flip.

Red nose

"I’ll give him a red nose."

A Rudolph/red-nose punch within the Christmas scheme.

Christmas alpha

"Since it’s Christmas, I had to hit him with an alpha."

A rough Christmas/alpha line, keeping the seasonal concept active.

Mistletoe bar

"Maybe if I back her on mistletoe, she’ll give it a go."

A mistletoe/family disrespect line.

Borat insult

"You look like Borat’s youngest son."

A strong visual insult.

Early gift

"I got you an early Christmas gift — bro, take that and go suck your mum."

A classic insult wrapped in the Christmas scheme.

Infrared beam

"Laser beam, that’s infrared."

A tech/weapon colour bar.

Owl head

"Treat man like an owl, spin his head."

A violent visual punch.

Boxing towel

"Bring a ref, you best throw him a towel."

A boxing stoppage line, saying ZEN is finished.

KANDI wave

"I’m on KANDI’s wave, the irony’s out."

A PenGame reference, aligning himself with KANDI-style disrespect.

Candy cane violence

"Leave man crippled, smash his leg with a candy cane."

A Christmas prop/violence line, tying the theme back together.

Frosty snowman

"There’s a reason why I’m the most disrespectful."

ORION summarises his battle identity.

Show man challenge

"If you got a problem, show man."

A final challenge line.

Judgement Summary

Archive Judgement: ZEN wins (No Official Decision)

There is no official winner announced in the transcript. The host praises the battle, tells viewers to comment who they think won, and closes the first Manchester PenGame event. ZEN should take this on Archive Judgement. ORION had strong written sections and a creative Christmas closer, but ZEN controlled the room harder, generated the bigger reloads, and made his third round feel like the main event moment of the night.

Battle Stats

Date12-02-2025
Views243K
LeagueSeason 5 (2024 Battles)