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DEENO VS JM

Battle Result

Official Battle Result

Clash Summary

DEENO vs JM took place during **PenGame Rap Battle 2024**, in front of a major judging panel featuring **Professor Green**, **RD**, and **Big Narstie**. Before the clash starts, the judges make it clear what they want to see: intelligent bars, skill, flows, metaphors, double entendres, rebuttals and proper performance. Big Narstie also warns that he is deducting points for lazy dead-relative material, making it clear that shock value alone will not be enough.

JM wins the coin toss and chooses to go first. From his opening round, he brings high energy, aggression and a direct attempt to dismantle DEENO’s reputation on PenGame. His main angle is that DEENO is not the best at anything on the platform — not the best rapper, not the best ginger, not the best white man, not even the best “fat kid.” It is a blunt but effective way to strip DEENO’s status down early.

DEENO responds with a more grime-heavy performance style. He uses references to **Pop Smoke**, **Ardee**, **Marni**, **Versace**, **Playboi Carti**, and street imagery to bring energy back. However, JM’s pacing, crowd control and pressure keep him ahead for large parts of the clash.

The battle becomes especially heated in the second and third rounds. JM brings repeated attacks on DEENO’s appearance, weight, teeth, losing streak, Wales/Cardiff identity, and alleged family material. DEENO fires back with freestyle moments, Pride/racism angles, homelessness/Sainsbury’s material, and a “Penge Poseidon” line.

The judges give the battle to **JM**. RD has JM winning **2-1**, Professor Green also gives it to JM after saying the battle was close until a decisive third-round moment, and Big Narstie effectively points to JM as the winner.

Performance Analysis

JM

JM wins this battle through energy, control and consistency. From round one, he attacks DEENO’s status and image directly. The “you ain’t the best…” run is simple, but it works because it repeatedly removes anything DEENO might claim as a strength. JM makes DEENO look like someone with no clear lane. His second round is one of his strongest. He increases the pressure with faster flow, more aggression and a repeated command for DEENO to “get out and clash.” This becomes important because the judges later praise JM’s energy and the way he brings performance to the stage. His third round seals the battle. JM chooses a grime-style beat and uses it to build momentum. He brings the address/coordinates angle, which should be handled carefully and not repeated in full for privacy reasons, but the intent is clear: he is trying to make the clash feel personal and threatening. He also pre-empts Welsh/sheep-shagging jokes, which RD later compares to the famous **8 Mile** battle tactic — saying something about yourself first so the opponent cannot use it effectively. JM’s biggest strength is that he performs like he wants the win. Even when some of his material is messy or extreme, his energy carries it. He feels more present, more aggressive and more in control of the room.

Lyrical Themes: DEENO’s PenGame status, ginger image, weight, teeth, Cardiff/Wales identity, losing streak, grime energy, family disrespect, privacy-threat angle, 8 Mile-style prebuttal, direct aggression.

DEENO

DEENO has moments and shows flashes of skill, but he does not do enough to overturn JM’s momentum. His first round has strong musical energy, opening with a **Pop Smoke “Welcome to the Party”** reference before moving into Cardiff, grime, Ardee, Marni and Versace imagery. He sounds comfortable on beat and brings a smoother flow than some of JM’s more chaotic sections. His second round includes freestyle and rebuttal moments, which the judges specifically wanted to see. Professor Green later acknowledges that DEENO brought freestyle energy, but it still was not enough to take the battle. DEENO’s biggest problem is that some of his material feels reactive rather than fully controlled. His third round starts with a potentially strong homelessness/Sainsbury’s angle, saying JM sent him to Sainsbury’s when asked for an address. He also uses the “Penge Poseidon” line and tries to bring a racism angle against JM. However, by the time DEENO gets there, JM has already built too much momentum. RD also notes that JM pre-empted the sheep-shagging angle, making DEENO’s Welsh material less effective. DEENO’s strength is musicality and occasional freestyle presence. His weakness is that JM’s direct aggression and stage energy overwhelm him across the battle.

Lyrical Themes: Cardiff army, grime identity, Pop Smoke, Ardee, designer references, street threats, freestyle rebuttals, homelessness/Sainsbury’s angle, Pride/racism angle, Penge Poseidon, Welsh/sheep-shagging material.

Key Technical Highlights

JM

Best round

Round three.

Strongest trait

Energy and stage control.

Best angle

DEENO not being the best at anything on PenGame.

Best tactical move

Pre-empting the Welsh/sheep-shagging angle before DEENO could use it.

Battle-winning factor

More consistent pressure and stronger performance across the clash.

DEENO

Best round

Round one or parts of round two.

Strongest trait

Musicality and grime delivery.

Best reference

Pop Smoke “Welcome to the Party” opener.

Best tactical attempt

Freestyle/rebuttal moments.

Main weakness

JM controlled the energy and landed more decisive moments.

Indexed Bars & Breakdown

JM

Status angle

"You ain’t the best bar on PenGame, you ain’t the best artist on PenGame, you ain’t the best ginger on PenGame."

This is JM’s main first-round angle. Instead of attacking one thing, he strips away every identity DEENO might claim. It works because it is repetitive, direct and easy for the room to understand.

Appearance attack continuation

"You ain’t the best fat kid on PenGame, you ain’t the best white man on PenGame."

JM continues the same scheme, making it more insulting by turning physical appearance and race into part of the ranking system. It is harsh, but it builds the argument that DEENO has no standout lane on the platform.

Image critique

"Why is this guy trying to move like a Viking?"

This attacks DEENO’s image. The Viking reference plays into ginger/white/warrior imagery, suggesting DEENO is trying to look or act tougher than he is. It also links to JM’s later attacks on DEENO’s identity and presence.

Folklore insult

"This leprechaun with thin hair can’t get girls."

JM uses the leprechaun image to mock DEENO’s ginger appearance. A leprechaun is an Irish folklore figure often associated with red hair and the end of the rainbow, which JM later connects to drug imagery. It is a crude but memorable visual insult.

Folklore flip

"You’ll find DEENO sat at the end of the rainbow, but now sniffing cocaine."

This continues the leprechaun/rainbow scheme. The traditional idea is that a leprechaun has gold at the end of the rainbow, but JM flips it into drug use and downfall. It makes the image darker and more damaging.

Platform reference

"I’m glad that KANDI came, nothing sweet like a candy cane."

JM brings in KANDI as a name-flip reference. “Candy cane” fits the Christmas setting and also connects to KANDI’s name. It works as a quick platform-aware punch because PenGame viewers understand the KANDI reference.

Harsh comparison

"You look like J. Cole’s autistic brother."

This is a harsh appearance/persona comparison. J. Cole is a globally known rapper, and JM uses the comparison to make DEENO look like an awkward, lesser version of a famous artist. The autism wording is offensive and should be treated as battle material.

Internet culture

"You look like Jake and Logan’s triplet."

This references Jake Paul and Logan Paul, internet personalities and boxers known for their blond/white American influencer image. JM uses it to mock DEENO’s appearance, making him look like a spare Paul brother. It is a pop-culture visual punch.

Aggressive imagery

"I’ll take the skin off your headpiece, turn that into a tech fleece and gift that to your son."

This is one of JM’s more aggressive second-round images. A tech fleece usually refers to Nike Tech Fleece tracksuits, a popular UK streetwear item. JM turns violence into a clothing reference, making the threat more vivid.

Serious allegation

"You have got ginger curls, you force yourself on girls."

This is a serious allegation-style angle and should be archived strictly as battle material, not fact. JM uses it to attack DEENO’s character. Because of the nature of the claim, it should be described carefully on the page.

Hierarchy bar

"I’m primary, you’re secondary."

This is a simple hierarchy bar. JM frames himself as first-level, main and essential, while DEENO is secondary. It also works with school language, making the line easy to catch.

Double entendre

"It’s ironic how I hold weight in my bars, and with yours you’re never heavy."

This is one of JM’s cleaner writing moments. “Hold weight” means having importance or credibility, while “heavy” connects to both lyrical weight and DEENO’s body angle. It is direct and layered without being overcomplicated.

Weight/food joke

"The only time that you have a violent outburst is over a bratwurst."

This is a weight/food joke. Bratwurst is a German sausage, so JM uses it to say DEENO only gets aggressive about food. It is funny, clear and tied to his ongoing body-size angle.

Performance demand

"This fat prick can’t even rap on beat — DEENO, get out and clash my G."

This becomes a performance moment more than just a bar. JM repeatedly demands that DEENO step up and properly clash. It gives his round momentum and helps explain why the judges highlight his energy.

Intent opener

"I chose this beat because I wanna box him in the face."

JM’s third round starts with pure intent. He picks the beat to match his aggression and tells the room exactly what he wants to do. It sets the tone for the decisive round.

Privacy threat

"I know the coordinates to your yard."

JM gives a highly personal threat angle here. For privacy reasons, the exact coordinates should not be repeated in the archive page. The important point is that JM is trying to make the battle feel more dangerous and personal by claiming knowledge of DEENO’s location.

Record attack

"You had a losing streak four times, then you won against S — now it’s time to get hard straight."

JM attacks DEENO’s battle record. A losing-streak angle is effective because it challenges the opponent’s status on the platform. JM is saying DEENO’s recent win does not erase the wider pattern.

Health insult

"Sugary sweets, look at his teeth, got diabetes."

This is a body and health-based insult. It links sweets, teeth and diabetes into one chain. It is harsh, but it fits JM’s repeated angle of attacking DEENO’s weight, appearance and lifestyle.

8 Mile tactic

"I am the shelliest sheep-shagging rhymer."

JM uses the Welsh stereotype himself before DEENO can fully weaponise it. This is important because RD later says JM did the 8 Mile tactic — taking away the opponent’s angle by saying it first.

Battle-death closer

"My boy told me that I should kill him, but he’s already dead."

This is a battle-death closer. JM is saying DEENO has already lost before the damage is even finished. It works as a final-round dominance line.

DEENO

Musical intro

"Pop Smoke, welcome to the party — who’s jamming this Cardiff army?"

DEENO opens with a reference to Pop Smoke’s “Welcome to the Party.” He uses it to bring energy and connect the battle to drill/grime-style performance. The Cardiff reference also anchors his identity and support base.

Penmanship challenge

"You can’t outbar me, broski, hardly."

DEENO’s first major claim is that JM cannot beat him lyrically. It is a direct penmanship challenge. The issue is that JM’s energy and crowd control later make that claim harder to defend.

UK Rap comparison

"A cold rapper on grime like Ardee."

This references Ardee, a UK rapper known for upbeat rap/grime-influenced energy and mainstream success. DEENO uses the comparison to position himself as cold on grime-style production. It fits his musical lane.

Designer reference

"I got grams of the green like Marni."

This line links weed imagery with Marni, a designer fashion brand. “Green” can mean cannabis or money, while Marni adds a designer/status reference. It is more style-flex than direct attack.

Luxury brand

"Your girl gives gold head like Versace."

This references Versace, a luxury designer brand associated with gold imagery and the Medusa logo. DEENO uses the brand to make a sexual and status-based punch. It is crude, but the reference is clear.

Vamp aesthetic

"Looks like a skeleton, either way same face as a Carti."

This appears to reference Playboi Carti, often associated with a thin, gothic, vamp-style image. DEENO uses it to mock JM’s appearance. The line is rough in the transcript, but the intent is an image comparison.

Street credibility attack

"This guy steals bikes and makes him feel like a grafter."

DEENO attacks JM’s street credibility. “Grafter” means someone who works hard or hustles, but DEENO says JM’s graft is low-level bike theft. It flips hustle culture into something petty.

Disrespect extension

"I’ll smoke in your baby mum’s face and use the same bike just to ride home after."

This continues the bike angle and makes it more disrespectful. DEENO combines baby-mum disrespect with the previous bike reference. It is personal, aggressive battle material.

Technical claim

"Out of us, I’m the better bar."

DEENO opens his second by directly claiming he is the better writer. This is simple, but it matters because the judges came in asking for bars and skill. He is trying to place himself in that technical lane.

Freestyle energy

"Let me not lie to this guy… JM, suck your bum, and your dad, and your gran…"

This is a freestyle-style section. It is crude and childish, but it shows DEENO trying to answer the judges’ request for something off the top. Professor Green later acknowledges that DEENO did bring freestyle energy.

Sexuality-based attack

"I got a pic of your dad at Pride."

This is a sexuality-based attack using Pride, the LGBTQ+ celebration and protest movement. It is used here as battle disrespect and should not be treated as fact. The line also builds into DEENO’s later “dad is a liar” angle.

Racism angle

"He see a Black man and face is changing — boy, you look racist."

DEENO tries to create a racism angle against JM. This is a serious accusation and should be treated as battle material, not verified fact. The judges and host pause on the line because of its weight and potential confusion.

Homelessness angle

"I think JM’s homeless… when I asked him for his address, this fucker sent me to Sainsbury’s."

This is DEENO’s strongest third-round angle. Sainsbury’s is a major UK supermarket chain, so saying JM sent him there instead of a home address makes the homelessness accusation feel specific and funny. It is a strong setup because it sounds like a personal story.

Concept bar

"I’m banning you from crossing the sea — call me Penge Poseidon."

This is one of DEENO’s cleaner concept bars. Poseidon is the Greek god of the sea, and “Penge” is flipped into the name to make it platform-specific. He uses it to say he controls JM’s movement across water, linking to the Wales/England angle.

Record attack

"You lost to Capital and Pro, talk beef like you lost to Fendri with a capital F."

DEENO references other battlers and losses to attack JM’s record. This is a battle-culture angle: he is saying JM talks like a threat but has already been beaten by others. It works best for viewers who know the wider PenGame scene.

Consumption image

"You’re a bit of grub and I’m scoring him."

This is a food/football-style image. “Scoring” can mean scoring a goal or scoring points in the battle. DEENO positions JM as something easy to consume or beat.

Pre-empted angle

"My man’s talking… his girlfriend’s just moaning in the bedroom screaming sheep-shagging."

DEENO tries to use the Welsh sheep-shagging stereotype against JM. However, this lands weaker because JM had already pre-empted the angle in his own third round. That is why RD says JM used an 8 Mile tactic.

Judgement Summary

Official Judgement: JM wins 2-1

There is an official judgement in the transcript. RD gives the battle to JM, saying he has JM winning two rounds to one. He specifically praises JM’s energy and notes that JM used the 8 Mile tactic by saying the sheep-shagging material himself before DEENO could use it properly. Professor Green also gives the battle to JM. He says he appreciated DEENO’s freestyle/rebuttal energy, but the battle was close until JM landed a decisive third-round moment that was too hard to come back from. Big Narstie also appears to give the battle to JM, with the host confirming JM as the winner. Official result: JM wins. Official score: JM 2-1 DEENO. Reason: JM wins through stronger energy, more consistent pressure and better control of the battle. DEENO has good moments, especially with his musicality and freestyle attempts, but JM’s third round and performance presence decide the clash.

Battle Stats

Date28-12-2024
Views148K
LeagueSeason 5 (2024 Battles)